Re: FW:(U//FOUO) ESRI Files

On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 03:11 PM, Pearson John T Jr GG-13
453 EWS/EWR wrote:

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> I know the list is for Openmap users. That's why I sent it. we're
> hoping
> to get more information on how Openmap's native shapefile generation
> capability works. OpenMap is very tightly integrated with our IMOM
> and MESA
> models, but we need some way to export the layers we generate &
> display in
> Openmap to shapefiles, hence my email.

OK, OK! I saw all these FOUO markings and got freaked out! :)

> Our development contractor, INEEL built a capability to do this using
> the
> internal Openmap routines. From the sample files I got, it seemed
> that the
> shapefiles had a world scale to them. I was hoping someone on the list
> would chime in and say they had built a way to "scale" this down, so
> that
> when the shapefile was loaded into ArcView, it didn't appear as a
> "dot".
>
> Since I'm not a Java programmer, I'm hoping Bill Huff or the folks at
> INEEL
> can make sense of your reply. All I know is that the radar coverage
> rings
> look like dots, and I don't like that.
>
> Feel free to post this to the list if you think it's appropriate.

Sure.

I'm not sure why the OpenMap output would appear as dots. The
OMGraphics that can be output into Shapefiles should be (I think,
*have* to be) defined in terms of lat/lon, so there shouldn't be a
scale component at all. The scale component would only make sense if
the OMGraphics were defined in terms of x/y. Maybe that's what's
going on - the lat/lon graphics have a scale component, so they are
being interpreted as x/y coordinates instead of decimal degree lat/lons.

- Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Dietrick [mailto:dietrick@bbn.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:25 PM
> To: Pearson John T Jr GG-13 453 EWS/EWR
> Cc: 'SWM@inel.gov'; Deil Lothar W GG-13 453 EWS/EWR; Peltier Rodulphe L
> GG-13 453 EWS/EWR; Huff Bill K CONTRACTOR 453 EWS/EWR; openmap@bbn.com;
> CHE@inel.gov
> Subject: Re: FW:(U//FOUO) ESRI Files
>
>
> John,
>
> FYI, openmap-users@bbn.com is an open mailing list to the openmap
> community.
>
> But back to your issue. You can control the OpenMap projection with a
> layer or component that might want to limit it's extents. You could
> modify a ShapeLayer or EsriPlugIn to use the MapHandler to get a handle
> on the MapBean, and then set the coordinates appropriately for a given
> data file.
>
> The MapBean also fires PropertyChangeEvents for layer changes - you
> could modify the MapBean to do that for Projections, too, and catch any
> veto objections that might be made for components tracking what the
> projection should be. That's probably something we'll be adding in
> future versions.
>
> Also, the GoToMenu does handle setting "views" - a named projection
> that you can set and reuse. View definitions are stored in the
> openmap.properties file.
>
> Is this the issue that you were referring to? Or was there some
> selection question?
>
> - Don
>
> On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 12:13 PM, Pearson John T Jr GG-13
> 453 EWS/EWR wrote:
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>> Mike,
>>
>> Yes, and it doesn't meet our needs. We need it scaled to the current
>> "view"
>> of the map, be it one site, or the world.
>> Better yet would be some sort of "selection" capability to dump
>> selected
>> items or perhaps selected data layers, scaled to the maximum extent of
>> the
>> selection or layer.
>>
>> Maybe Don Dietrick can help us out here?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John Pearson
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SWM@inel.gov [mailto:SWM@inel.gov]
>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 06:35 AM
>> To: Pearson John T Jr GG-13 453 EWS/EWR
>> Cc: CHE@inel.gov
>> Subject: Re: FW:(U//FOUO) ESRI Files
>>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I found out that the OpenMap software uses the entire world for the
>> extents. It doesn't seem to be something we can modify at this point.
>> Is
>> this the behaviour that you are seeing?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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>> Michael W. Snyder
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>>
>> Pearson John T Jr
>>
>> GG-13 453 EWS/EWR To: "'Michael W
>> Snyder'
>> (E-mail)" <SWM@inel.gov>
>> <John.Pearson@LACKLA cc:
>>
>> ND.AF.MIL> Fax to:
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>> Subject:
>> FW:(U//FOUO)
>> ESRI Files
>> 09/20/02 01:58 PM
>>
>>
>>
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>> mike...
>>
>> somehow you email address got corrupted
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pearson John T Jr GG-13 453 EWS/EWR
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:16 AM
>> To: Peltier Rodulphe L GG-13 453 EWS/EWR; Deil Lothar W GG-13 453
>> EWS/EWR; Huff Bill K CONTRACTOR 453 EWS/EWR
>> Cc: 'swm@inel.gov'
>> Subject: RE: ESRI Files
>>
>>
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>> Lothar Deil is looking at these and at the second set Mike sent. When
>> we
>> open them in Arcview, they are real small (like dots), and need to be
>> zoomed
>> in on. Don't know if this is to be expected by using the Openmap
>> routine
>> to
>> generate shapefiles. It seems like you'll need be zoomed in to a site
>> before you generate the files if you only want 1 radar in the extent.
>> In
>> other words it seems that if you have a large map area in view, with
>> only 1
>> radar site (object) on the "map", when you dump the file it dumps
>> based on
>> the size (or extent) of the map being displayed.
>>
>> Mike/Bill is this correct?
>>
>> JP
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peltier Rodulphe L GG-13 453 EWS/EWR
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 07:04 PM
>> To: Pearson John T Jr GG-13 453 EWS/EWR
>> Cc: 'swn@inel.gov'
>> Subject: FW: ESRI Files
>>
>>
>> John,
>>
>> Can we get JT or Lodar or someone to look at these ESRI shape files
>> and
>> give
>> us some feedback. If you want this capability in the next release of
>> IMOM,
>> we need to give Mike some feedback soon.
>>
>> rod
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SWM@inel.gov [mailto:SWM@inel.gov]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:43 PM
>> To: odsf; Peltier Rodulphe L GG-13 453 EWS/EWR; Pearson John T Jr
>> GG-13
>> 453 EWS/EWR
>> Subject: ESRI Files
>>
>>
>>
>> Rolfe, Rod,
>>
>> I haven't heard from you regarding the sample shapefiles I sent. So
>> maybe
>> there was a problem with my first email. So... attached is another zip
>> file
>> with the requested altitudes for a sample radar in Korea. Take a look
>> at
>> these and let me know... You'll see the naming convention when you
>> open the
>> zip. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
>> As
>> always this is a bogus radar, all UNCLASS.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> (See attached file: esri.zip)
>>
>>
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>> Michael W. Snyder
>> Idaho National Engineering & Environmental Laboratory (INEEL)
>> P.O. Box 1625, MailStop 3818
>> Idaho Falls, ID 83415-3818
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